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Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By Smirt211
10/23/2019 9:38 pm
Yes, I recall going up against that player. I can't remember the league, either.

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By setherick
10/24/2019 7:21 am
Smirt211 wrote:
Yes, as you've all said there's a body frame limit put in place. Most radical I've gotten is reducing a TE over time to WR. So, figure a 6'3" TE trying to descend to 198 lbs. I believe sometimes it halts on the way down to somewhere between WR and RB weight. Also, it'll take awhile to get there.....down to RB, for instance.

I've never tried to reduce a 6'4" or 6'3" d-lineman down to CB figuring the body frame element would impede it or make the CB ineffective due to over-size height.

Flip side, I know JDB and the Gang got mad and made it so that DBs *** rushing the show at DE got mashed and crushed so I try to be careful with testing limits.



Your 6'3-4" 270# DE will likely end up in the 220 range, which is fine for a DB as long as he has good acceleration.

When looking at players over RB weight (217#) or WLB weight (237#), the separating factor is AC. AC is largely negligible for light weight players because they get their body weight moving pretty quickly (which is why a 60 SP, AC, 100 B&R, 100 Courage WR will still tear up the Hitch route), but it's extremely important for players over that weight to get moving. It's why your 80 SP, 10 AC TE gets outperformed by someone's 50 SP, 80 AC TE or <whatever scenario involving players >240# here>.

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By Smirt211
10/24/2019 7:27 am
****, that's quite intriguing information/food for thought. Related to but not exactly what you were discussing with acceleration I know that my approach on it is if you have short burst post routes you want the acceleration as maxed out as possible vs. a fly pattern you can accept a high end speed/reduced acceleration. However, the weight vs. the need for acceleration that truly adds another layer of consideration. The MLB with sparkling 82 speed but 35 acceleration you may want to pass on for the steady 70+/70+ guy.

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By Infinity on Trial
10/24/2019 12:33 pm
Don't underestimate the value of a WR with 95 speed and AC on a fly route regardless of talent, especially since poor catch ability actually decreases the chance of a drop.

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By Cjfred68
10/24/2019 12:35 pm
Infinity on Trial wrote:
Don't underestimate the value of a WR with 95 speed and AC on a fly route regardless of talent, especially since poor catch ability actually decreases the chance of a drop.


Absolutely speed is king for offensive playmakers

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By punisher
10/24/2019 7:11 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
I dont remember the league but the WR was named Hines Ward and he **** near led the league in interceptions


well this WR lead the league in Interceptions and TDS

he had 12 INTS and 4 TDS

here = https://new-age-nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/242

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By Cjfred68
10/24/2019 7:29 pm
punisher wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:
I dont remember the league but the WR was named Hines Ward and he **** near led the league in interceptions


well this WR lead the league in Interceptions and TDS



he had 12 INTS and 4 TDS

here = https://new-age-nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/242


Explain this one????

WR with 63 speed and 74 acceleration leads league with 12 INTs

Other ratings.....
86 Int
88 pass catch
11 tackle
31 punish
28 zone
21 m2m
20 B&r

?????Why?????

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By punisher
10/24/2019 7:30 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:

Explain this one????

WR with 63 speed and 74 acceleration leads league with 12 INTs

Other ratings.....
86 Int
88 pass catch
11 tackle
31 punish
28 zone
21 m2m
20 B&r

?????Why?????


i dont know how he did it ....all i can guess is i had him at #3 CB spot so maybe that had something to do with it

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By Cjfred68
10/24/2019 8:08 pm
punisher wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:

Explain this one????

WR with 63 speed and 74 acceleration leads league with 12 INTs

Other ratings.....
86 Int
88 pass catch
11 tackle
31 punish
28 zone
21 m2m
20 B&r

?????Why?????


i dont know how he did it ....all i can guess is i had him at #3 CB spot so maybe that had something to do with it


Just because you put him there isnt the question....you can put your punter at CB #3 if you want.....the question is why did he get 12 interceptions when he has basically no defensive back skill at all.....Is pass catching enough to play CB?

Re: 1986 Free Agency/Draft Chatter

By setherick
10/24/2019 8:37 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
punisher wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:
I dont remember the league but the WR was named Hines Ward and he **** near led the league in interceptions


well this WR lead the league in Interceptions and TDS



he had 12 INTS and 4 TDS

here = https://new-age-nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/242


Explain this one????

WR with 63 speed and 74 acceleration leads league with 12 INTs

Other ratings.....
86 Int
88 pass catch
11 tackle
31 punish
28 zone
21 m2m
20 B&r

?????Why?????


Supposedly catch influences INT.