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Dead Cap Reset

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
4/26/2022 3:14 pm
League administrators now have the ability to eliminate dead cap without having to contact JDB first. This is brand new so no protocols exist in any league yet. How do we want to handle this as a league?

I know one thing, I want to be transparent when/if I do this for someone. The question is though, when do I do it, is there a threshold to reach before you can ask, etc.

I would like as many opinions as possible as long as we can remain civil if we disagree. Hopefully we can all reach an acceptable consensus before next season starts.

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By Cjfred68
4/26/2022 3:44 pm
IMO....This option should only be for a new owner taking over a team.

Someone who buries themselves in dead cap should live with it as a consequence or quit so a new owner can start fresh

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
4/26/2022 3:45 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
IMO....This option should only be for a new owner taking over a team.

Someone who buries themselves in dead cap should live with it as a consequence or quit so a new owner can start fresh


That's probably a good place to start but would I do it for all new owners, or must their cap situation be bad first?

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By Cjfred68
4/26/2022 4:13 pm
I've addressed this in my leagues and this is what I posted.

https://xfl.myfootballnow.com/forums/1/1028?page=1#6975

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By MoonPygg
4/26/2022 4:57 pm
My opinion is forgiving dead cap space is an unfair advantage to new owners also, though through no fault of their own of course. My thoughts would be more along the lines of penalizing people in some way that abandon teams that they have screwed up. Unless owner is OBVIOUSLY brand new to the game. Say a restriction to how many leagues they could be in at one time or even downright banning for a set amount of time. A lot of leagues are dying as it is i know but perhaps a strong core group of a couple hundred owners can be in four leagues each with little turnover. Just throwing things out there. To clarify i play this game for free so others may not approve of this on the grounds that pay MFN money.
Last edited at 4/26/2022 5:03 pm

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By Warthog
4/26/2022 5:46 pm
raidergreg69 wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:
IMO....This option should only be for a new owner taking over a team.

Someone who buries themselves in dead cap should live with it as a consequence or quit so a new owner can start fresh


That's probably a good place to start but would I do it for all new owners, or must their cap situation be bad first?


I like this as a start also. But then how can we quantify what I 'bad' situation is? A dollar amount? A percentage of the current cap (since it changes each year)? When there is not enough cap space to at least sign all your draft picks?

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By Cjfred68
4/26/2022 6:10 pm
I'm setting the bar at 30 million for my leagues that are in season 22 & 23....newer leagues should lower the amount.

I'm only using this as a last resort option for teams that have been destroyed and a new owner is coming aboard!

Anyone that has owned a team for over 2 years is dealing with his own mess and deserves whatever hole they made for themselves.

I'm consistently high in dead cap because:

A. I'm constantly looking to improve my roster and will cut anyone regardless of cap hit if I can find a better option.

B. I sign older free agents to longer deals so I can actually sign them which means eating dead cap when they retire or get the axe.

I've never worried about dead cap and it's worked for me so far but I do understand taking over a bad team in cap **** from absolutely no fault of your own.

Rebuilding those teams despite all the dead cap can be one of the great aspects of this game if you have patience.

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
4/26/2022 6:21 pm
Warthog wrote:
raidergreg69 wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:
IMO....This option should only be for a new owner taking over a team.

Someone who buries themselves in dead cap should live with it as a consequence or quit so a new owner can start fresh


That's probably a good place to start but would I do it for all new owners, or must their cap situation be bad first?


I like this as a start also. But then how can we quantify what I 'bad' situation is? A dollar amount? A percentage of the current cap (since it changes each year)? When there is not enough cap space to at least sign all your draft picks?


Those are the answers I'm looking for. I could just make a decision but I would rather get a consensus before I go making rules and stuff.

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
4/26/2022 6:24 pm
Like what do I do about Pittsburgh, if anything. I don't remember what their cap was when Qwex first took over, but since that time, hkpman junior, I mean Qwex has made a lot of trades. (Nothing deragatory meant Qwex, it's just a lot of people know hkpman as a guy addicted to trading). They have $59 million in dead cap this year, $88 million next.

Re: Dead Cap Reset

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
4/26/2022 10:16 pm
CJ is using $30 million as a baseline for a new owner to ask for cap relief. I think that's not much at all, especially given our current cap is $406 million. Let's look at Pittsburgh...yes they have nearly $60 million dead cap this year and nearly $90 million next year, but they also have $29 million of cap room to work with.

I personally feel dead cap relief should be used to free up cap space to allow a team to sign a full roster, not just to have a clean slate so maybe we're looking at the wrong figure for our threshold. Perhaps we should instead focus on remaining cap room.

Let's say a new owner takes over a team that has some AI contracts and the team has like $1 million of cap room. That's a team that needs dead cap relief if it results in more cap room to sign players.

As far as doing anything now, I would probably only do it for Pittsburgh, Georgia, Birmingham, and Michigan since they are all new owners. None seem to need it though as they all have cap room. Next season might be a different story for Pittsburgh, what with their 16 draft picks.