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Out of Position Players

Should players be allowed to play out of position?

Yes, always
6
No
5
Only for injury replacement
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Re: Out of Position Players

By Cjfred68
6/22/2020 9:14 pm
If we can't beat Seth then good for him....he needs another 10 titles to catch up to Infinity anyway!

Re: Out of Position Players

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
6/23/2020 4:57 am
To be clear, I am looking for overwhelming support to change a rule, at least a 2:1 ratio.

Re: Out of Position Players

By AlexanDragon
6/23/2020 6:26 am
raidergreg69 wrote:
To be clear, I am looking for overwhelming support to change a rule, at least a 2:1 ratio.


What is exactly the out of position details? Wr-rb kind of swap or wr-db kind of swap?

Re: Out of Position Players

By setherick
6/23/2020 7:15 am
raidergreg69 wrote:
To be clear, I am looking for overwhelming support to change a rule, at least a 2:1 ratio.


I don't think it's going to happen.

To be clear, there are some good reasons to play players out of position in this version of the code because of how badly SP vs SP interactions are mangled.

For instance, one of the key ways to beat the 221 long passes is to override the MLB blitzer with a fast DB who can disrupt the play before the QB can get off the pass. The reason that you need the override is because your LB, even McKeon SP/AC combo, is too slow to get to the QB. And you should override the person covering the RB out of the backfield too. Otherwise that person is way too slow to cover the RB and, boom!, long gain after long gain.

If you look at the highest passing yardage offenses, they are mostly using the same limited playbook: Hitch, PA Fullback Flat, HB Flare, 221 Long Passes, and a small collection of 212 Medium passes that send the RB underneath. All of those offenses rely on having a faster (SP + AC) RB and WR2 than their opponents have cover people.

The effective way to stop those offenses is to play players "out of position" in that you want to override the cover guy on the RB to make sure you have a DB with adequate SP covering on passing downs. Otherwise, you're relying on the "slow player will jump the passing route" technique, which is inconsistent and gets burned badly when it doesn't work.

Re: Out of Position Players

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
6/23/2020 7:37 am
AlexanDragon wrote:
raidergreg69 wrote:
To be clear, I am looking for overwhelming support to change a rule, at least a 2:1 ratio.


What is exactly the out of position details? Wr-rb kind of swap or wr-db kind of swap?


No details needed, it's all players.

Re: Out of Position Players

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
6/23/2020 7:59 am
I'm locking this thread after this post, I've wasted enough time on this subject. There are some in this league, myself included, that do not like the amount of sacks McKeon has. It's utterly ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as the number of issues plaguing this game that still aren't fixed.

When those issues rear their ugly head, league administrators get PMs from pissed off GMs wondering what they're gonna do about it. Now I could make a rule for just the one player, but that's not fair. As soon as I do, that will open up Pandora's box.

It's clear from the voting so far that we're not going to have a 2 to 1 majority, it's 4-4 with 1 yes for injury purposes. We have 3 pages of varying opinions and only 9 votes, so I'm done with this.

Once again, JDB leaves us holding the bag for the **** the game gives us and I'm fed up with worrying about stuff.