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I voted no at first because I needed to vote to see the results. Take 1 no vote away, I'm undecided at this point.

If you voted no, please visit the discussion page and give me suggestions on how to enforce/punish this. I'm not kicking anyone out of the league for this, but I don't have an acceptable alternative.

If you take my no vote away like I said above, it's 9-7 to not allow it, with half the league not voting. There is no good way to "punish" violators and the vote was close, so this is a dead issue unless someone has new ideas.

I'm not kicking anyone out of the league for this, and the self imposed cap penalty will discourage it being overused. Those huge bonus payments can be an albatross for your cap in the last couple years of the contract. Use this wisely.

To confirm, the loophole has to do with their salary not bonus correct? Or can both be adjusted. If so please advise how.

Not really sure what the point of this kangaroo court was lol. Majority who responded said don't, yet the decision was made by the silent majority to determine it is allowed hahha. Okay.

Please explain how this can be done. Does it affect both salary and bonus?

Since the conversation has come up I think the whole loop needs to be closed by other owners being brought into the "know" on how to also do this if they wish.

In the other thread a more detailed explanation of the 'loophole' was given

No that post contains lots of round-a-bout information. Not explicit and does not advise what this loophole actually changes (salary, bonus or both).

I'm not against this, but think transparency is key to keep the playing field level. And to be fair, it was asked about because it is knowingly questionable and known that it is not intuitive unless you have experience or just test things.

1. Move both slides all the way to the right.

2. Manually input values into salary fields which are shown on a year by year basis.

3. Resign player the following season based on minimum bonus payable. I.e. lowest possible salary while still giving the bonus the player demands - this will adjust their salary in the future and mitigate cap issues. You will still have to pay huge bonus from original contract plus new contract but it is generally a much lower salary when you resign your own players.

This is also a fairly lucrative way to obtain aging talent so don't waste it only on top FAs. A year 7-8 RB doesn't always decline in stats so may be worth gamble if player is good enough. Similar for other skill positions.

The vote was 9-7. If I'm going to make a rule, we need more than a slight majority, it needs to be about 2:1. The problem in this case is if I do make a rule, HOW DO I ENFORCE IT?

The only thing I can do is boot someone, and I'm not trying to do that. What else can I do? I can't take away draft picks, I can't reverse the contract and award that player to the next bidder, what else can I do?

Before anyone gets mad, give me a proper solution to deter this loophole usage. Without a proper solution or punishment, there can be no rule.

I follow. Knowing is half the battle here - how to, and that it can be done. Doing it is the other half - naturally not all owners will do it.

I don't think the average person playing would know they could do that, or that it could determine the outcome of a FA signing. The sliders are a more intuitive and present way to determine pay.

I only have an opinion because this was brought to light. Knowing this, I personally will adjust if I really want a FA and will over bid however possible.

I will add that when it's used, it will eat up a large chunk of cap room, and it will make cutting/trading the player cost prohibitive because the remaining bonus gets rolled into 1 big lump sum.

It's also not something that can be used over and over like the punt block exploit.

That's why I don't feel a big need to punish further, you kind of box yourself in salary wise when you offer a regular max contract, let alone a max with a little extra.