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Punt Block Compromise?

Is the punt block compromise, detailed below, acceptable to you?

Yes
12
No
5

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By Rialto
7/13/2021 7:36 am
When there is a speed limit of 80 in the front 4, you can say you eliminate the feature of punt blocking in this football simulation.

It 's ok for me, so I have to change a bit my draft evaluation to LBs next draft.

Preferred is a weight limit of 237lbs like in all other leagues.

Problem with 80speed limit for me is, that due to converting a player, I could overlook the special team because I have to check every player again to speed.
If you are in rebuild modus, you do more converting as a contender.
In case there is forbidden player, please contact me, so that I can substitute.

Just to have 237 lbs limit is easier to control and punt block can still happen in that simulation.
You are the boss, it's your league.

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
7/13/2021 9:15 am
Well it seems people don't like my compromise, so I don't know what I'm gonna do. Probably nothing since that seems to be what people want. Carry on like this discussion never happened,.

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By slowtospeak
7/13/2021 2:33 pm
Actually, in my case the punt blocker had 75 speed. As long as JDB ruthlessly suppresses any vestige of speed, anyone new will be at a distinct disadvantage. My blockers are so bad that I am essentially helpless against anyone established. My only choice is to give up and go away, which is perhaps what JDB really wants.

This seems like a reasonable compromise, but the game is far from reasonable right now.

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By WarEagle
7/13/2021 2:49 pm
I don't need a rule to tell me not to put an 80+ speed LB on the front 4 because I know it will lead to blocks.

However, I'd be glad if there were a rule because some players will do anything that isn't prohibited in order to get a W.

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By 4343
7/13/2021 3:33 pm
raidergreg69 wrote:
Punt Block Exploit No DB, WR, or RB on the front 4 of the ST rushers


We have this rule already. Why do we need to change it?

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
7/13/2021 9:36 pm
4343 wrote:
raidergreg69 wrote:
Punt Block Exploit No DB, WR, or RB on the front 4 of the ST rushers


We have this rule already. Why do we need to change it?


I guess we don't as we can't come to a consensus on anything, other than yes, most want LB on ST Rusher. We have 26 votes in and it's 21-5 yes. Of those 21 yes votes, they are close to evenly split between let them play anywhere, keep them off the front 4, and keep speed under 80.

I could run another poll just using the yes vote options, but why? They'll just end up even again. With no clear answer, it's carry on, business as usual.

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By slowtospeak
7/13/2021 11:03 pm
WarEagle wrote:

However, I'd be glad if there were a rule because some players will do anything that isn't prohibited in order to get a W.

Whining about it to no end might be another thing some players will do.

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By slowtospeak
7/13/2021 11:04 pm
WarEagle wrote:

However, I'd be glad if there were a rule because some players will do anything that isn't prohibited in order to get a W.

Whining about it to no end might be another thing some players will do.

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By Cjfred68
7/14/2021 12:34 am
My 2 cents for what's it worth....

I've been using the following rule in both the GM Football leagues (I&II)

ONLY DL & LB CAN PLAY ST RUSHER.

There is no speed component to it but LBs must weigh 237 pounds.

It's been 6 full seasons combined for both leagues and we get the occasional punt block but it hasn't been at any alarming rate.

I feel like a punt block happened week 1 here and "maybe" it's an overreaction to it occurring.

The "exploit" to block punts was lining up 191 pound +90 speed DBs and WRs on the front 4 (ST RUSHER #1-#4) which overloaded the offensive line and created an abundance of punt blocks (I counted 1 team getting 41 punt blocks for a season).

My suggestion is to take a wait and see approach to punt blocks before instituting a new (revised) rule.

The ideal is to still get some punt blocks without them getting out of control (McKeon style).

Re: Punt Block Compromise?

By Cjfred68
7/14/2021 11:27 am
Good to see 8 punts versus the Wranglers and no blocks with the same front four.