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Re: 1992 Offseason

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
11/29/2020 10:09 am
Pass Block 30
Strength 25
Run Block 20
Acceleration 15
Speed 5
Intelligence 2
Discipline 2
Long Snapping 1

Re: 1992 Offseason

By TheAdmiral
11/29/2020 10:18 am
I have him as a 77/77

Re: 1992 Offseason

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
11/29/2020 10:19 am
I've never been happy with my player weights, can't seem to get them right. Take my Tackle weights from above (guards are different), I can see 2 LT with the same weights but one could be garbage because of horrible run blocking, while the other has just average physical attributes but excellent blocking.

Re: 1992 Offseason

By tribewriter
11/29/2020 1:33 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
That's interesting...83 and 87....where is he lacking to be a 90 LT? He is 100 run/pass block with 60/68 speed/acceleration and 86 strength.

Although I've really found no great benefit to strength at offensive line. I had 2 offensive linemen with 100/100 blocking and 50ish strength on my offensive line and had the #1 offense last season. I still have it as a attribute counted since Seth has always said its important but I don't weigh it very high anymore. I give speed a higher weight now.


Setherick's weights for OT:
Strength: 100
Pass Block: 50
Run Block: 50
Acceleration: 26
Intelligence: 19
Discipline: 19
Speed: 19

I do remember at one juncture that he had pass block more heavily weighted than run block for LT.

I am not in a position to tell setherick that his weights are flawed, since I am not sure what metrics to use to objectively measure OL effectiveness. I guess that could be another forum topic.

Re: 1992 Offseason

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
11/29/2020 2:25 pm
I flip flop run/pass blocking for guards and have a different mix of speed/accel/strength. Centers have equal run/pass block and a slight bump in intelligence/discipline and snapping.

Re: 1992 Offseason

By Cjfred68
11/29/2020 3:00 pm
TheAdmiral wrote:
I have him as a 77/77


Really Wow!

Maxed out run and pass block and only 77. I will need to keep an eye on your offensive linemen and offer you some trades.

Re: 1992 Offseason

By Cjfred68
11/29/2020 3:03 pm
tribewriter wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:
That's interesting...83 and 87....where is he lacking to be a 90 LT? He is 100 run/pass block with 60/68 speed/acceleration and 86 strength.

Although I've really found no great benefit to strength at offensive line. I had 2 offensive linemen with 100/100 blocking and 50ish strength on my offensive line and had the #1 offense last season. I still have it as a attribute counted since Seth has always said its important but I don't weigh it very high anymore. I give speed a higher weight now.


Setherick's weights for OT:
Strength: 100
Pass Block: 50
Run Block: 50
Acceleration: 26
Intelligence: 19
Discipline: 19
Speed: 19

I do remember at one juncture that he had pass block more heavily weighted than run block for LT.

I am not in a position to tell setherick that his weights are flawed, since I am not sure what metrics to use to objectively measure OL effectiveness. I guess that could be another forum topic.


I measure it by offensive success overall. If you have a top 10 rushing and passing offense then the offensive line is doing there job

Re: 1992 Offseason

By TheAdmiral
11/29/2020 4:19 pm
Cjfred68 wrote:
TheAdmiral wrote:
I have him as a 77/77


Really Wow!

Maxed out run and pass block and only 77. I will need to keep an eye on your offensive linemen and offer you some trades.


Most of my rankings are quite harsh as I like to see a few different attributes to see how versatile they are. With all OL I like to see there Short Snapping and Long Snapping prowess so I can quickly assess who can best cover Center in a crisis.

However I prioritise Strength and Pass Blocking for a LT. The good news is Dougan is in my top 100 LT. The top 2 LT's by my rankings are currently playing RT and C for their respective teams - the max rating is 91 and 90 and they are the only 2 90's rated at LT. The top 2 playing at LT are rated 88/88 they're 8 and 9 year vets.

The best youngster is rated 85/87 entering his third season.



Re: 1992 Offseason

By Cjfred68
11/29/2020 4:26 pm
TheAdmiral wrote:
Cjfred68 wrote:
TheAdmiral wrote:
I have him as a 77/77


Really Wow!

Maxed out run and pass block and only 77. I will need to keep an eye on your offensive linemen and offer you some trades.


Most of my rankings are quite harsh as I like to see a few different attributes to see how versatile they are. With all OL I like to see there Short Snapping and Long Snapping prowess so I can quickly assess who can best cover Center in a crisis.

However I prioritise Strength and Pass Blocking for a LT. The good news is Dougan is in my top 100 LT. The top 2 LT's by my rankings are currently playing RT and C for their respective teams - the max rating is 91 and 90 and they are the only 2 90's rated at LT. The top 2 playing at LT are rated 88/88 they're 8 and 9 year vets.

The best youngster is rated 85/87 entering his third season.





I use to do the same thing by having a wide variety of attributes but I've found over the years that players can get lost in the wash. I find using a limited set of attributes that are key for each position has the cream rise to the top.

For instance, long and short snapping is meaningless to a LT and falsely lowers his rating for no reason. They will still show for center or long snapper so simply by checking positions on a players card, you can see how versatile he is.