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No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
6/03/2021 9:51 am
I never had a no tanking rule in place, so I'm not booting him at this time BUT THIS CAN NOT HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

I may not have had a rule in place, but the kind of blatant tanking we are seeing out of Arizona can never happen again. It's disrespectful to everyone in the league to start your worst QB on purpose, turning a regular player into a lousy kicker, and whatever else is going on.

To be clear, and fair, there is a difference between playing for next year and outright tanking, and I have no problem if teams out of contention want to start new players to see if they are any good.

We have all of these 10 win teams fighting for playoff spots and now Portland and Detroit get a bye weeks in the middle of the season thanks to playing a Wranglers team aiming to be the worst ever.

In the meantime, I will continue to be a jerk when it comes to pointing out the tank job. I will most likely bring it up in the future, even if they get turned around to a 13-0 team. I have a long memory and won't forget this anytime soon.
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Basically the rule is simple, anyone blatantly tanking will be removed from the league starting next season.

What is blatant tanking? You'll know it when you see it, for an example, see the 1994 Arizona Tankers https://usflwfl.myfootballnow.com/team/8

Now I reserve the right to change my mind about booting Rialto this season. This is a private, invitation only league, which means I can remove anyone for any reason at any time. I felt like he was trolling me by calling zero running plays against Philadelphia and I was oh so close to hitting that remove owner button.

All of this focus lately on Arizona almost had me forget about Oklahoma tanking too, refusing to sign a real kicker for a few games after I originally asked him to fix it.

If people don't have enough respect for their fellow owners to attempt to field a competitive team, they don't need to be here even if it means AI takes over.

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By Cjfred68
6/03/2021 5:28 pm
I'm 100% on board with this rule.
Maybe I've allowed it to happen in my leagues for too long.

The focus has always been on the winning teams as the winless teams fall to the way side but Raidergreg does a fantastic job doing a weekly blog post for every game which means teams tanking can't hide in the shadows.

I understand how someone wants to turn a losing francise around but I've never in hundreds of seasons played purposely tanked for a draft pick.

Tanking to get the #1 overall pick does the tanking team and the league more harm than any benefit from getting that pick.

Play knowledge/familiarity for every player on the team is destroyed as any successful francise needs 32 games of data to pick the right plays and have both the offense and defense execute those play proficiently.

That means after you draft that #1 overall pick....you will need 2 full seasons to start turning the francise around. Of course, that means the #1 overall pick is the one missing piece of the puzzle or you might as well keep on tanking.

Fielding the best players and game planning to win will only improve your team and if your team isn't ready to win then a top ten pick is still great. Why??? Because you will really understand what your team really needs to improve based on finishing the season with the best possible outcome.

With that being said, if I find myself 3-11 with 2 games remaining in the season, I will start more of my depth to test how they perform with additional snaps. The difference here is I've played to win all season and introduce younger players to gain play knowledge on the plays I run to win games.

Blatantly playing your 3rd best QB who has no chance to start in this league, has no actual trade value and purposely makes your team worse is ridiculous. Converting a LB to a K so you can't score fieldgoals and dramatic change field position creates a competitive disadvantage to many teams based on your division opponents getting 2 free wins/2 buy weeks during the seasons and 10 other teams get free wins/buy weeks when they play you.

Not only does it give them a win but they can rest everyone with a hangnail because their backups will win. So if I'm an owner and you aren't on my schedule...I'm behind the eightball when it comes to making the playoffs via a Wildcard.

TANKING

☆disrupt the competitive balance in the league

☆this league names ALLPROS, MVPS and has a HALL OF FAME so anyone in your division will stack stats twice a season.

☆you destroy your teams ability to gain play knowledge/familiarity by fielding what isn't a true representation of your best team.

AND FOR WHAT???

A mystery #1 overall pick who even if ranked with 90 potential and a 1 vol can still bust! Why? Because vol changes after you draft them and low vol doesn't guarantee anything!

Of course, that's assuming you even know what to draft with the top pick because there are only 5 positions worthy of the top pick in my opinion and here's hoping one of those 5 positions has someone worthy of taking #1 overall without a 96 vol.

JUST PLAY TO WIN PEOPLE

I would much rather go 3-13 playing to win with a bad team and landing the #8 pick then go 0-16 on purpose to get the #1 overall pick. At least my team tasted a fee wins, I ruined somebody's week 3 timed and have a foundation to work with moving forward.

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
6/03/2021 6:09 pm
Well said CJ. Thank You!

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By pdoug20
6/08/2021 12:04 pm
Commish and CJ, I could not have said it any better. Coming from someone whose team has only made the playoffs ONCE since this league was formed, I can proudly say that I have never tanked, no matter how frustrating it's been. One thing that I've enjoyed about being in this league is that our commissioners have evolved the rules and expectations to keep the league as successful as it's been. We really haven't had a whole lot of turnover with our owners here, and that's a testament to all of us competing to do our best with the teams we have. I would much rather have an AI or a dummy account run a team than have someone come in and blatantly destroy a team for a draft pick that may ultimately be a bust. At least those two options will keep a team playing decently until someone respectable comes in and gets them playing competitively. This has been an awesome league to be a part of- let's continue doing our part to keep it as one of the best on MFN!!

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
10/06/2021 11:45 am
We just had a situation come up during Week 8/9 of 1996 where I asked Southern California if he was tanking because he was starting a QB with 54 accuracy. Following some PMs, the Sun owner decided to switch QBs, and came within a failed 2 point conversion from sending the champs to OT.

Should a situation similar arise in the future, I don't want to give the impression I am telling you who to play. It's not my call to say who starts, but it is my call to maintain the integrity of the league. I would prefer to never have this come up again, but if it does, I want to handle it the same way.

1) I sent dfisherman a PM, asking why Angulo was starting.
2) He responded with his reasons for starting him
3) Situation over

Had Angulo started again, that would have been fine because I was satisfied that he wasn't trying to lose by starting him. He made the switch on his own after looking things over.

In the future, all I want is an answer for why a certain player is/isn't playing. I really don't want people thinking I'm making anyone switch QBs.

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By dfisherman
10/07/2021 1:37 pm
I really appreciate you messaging me regarding it Greg. I never intend to tank now or ever. I am way too stubborn for that haha. You did help me see my oversight in that situation though. You didn't have to but I appreciate you saying something about it.

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By setherick
10/09/2021 9:24 am
I recommend picking up this guy: https://usflwfl.myfootballnow.com/player/7125

INT > Accuracy if Accuracy is over 50.

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By Cjfred68
10/09/2021 10:42 am
setherick wrote:
I recommend picking up this guy: https://usflwfl.myfootballnow.com/player/7125

INT > Accuracy if Accuracy is over 50.


Dfisherman,

Sean Ogden is better than the above guy and obviously much much younger. You can definately win with Ogden, especially if you add more speedy playmakers

Re: No Tanking Rule for 1995 and beyond

By dfisherman
10/12/2021 1:59 pm
Thanks guys, definitely going to roll with Ogden. He has done a decent job so far. Thanks again for the help!