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Speed vs Speed (Repost from another thread)

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
8/13/2020 6:42 pm
I'm willing to have this discussion as long as it is productive and not finger pointy, which the discussion has always devolved to when I've seriously tried to have this discussion.

The dirty little secret about SP vs SP in MFN is that it's not actually about the SP of the player, it's about the player's physical weight.

The reason that WRs do better at RB, even accounting for equal SP, is that WRs will inherently accelerate faster than the RB because they are 20 pounds lighter. The AC score is not normalized by weight -- the max AC has just been adjusted to show the actual max value a player can achieve.

An 80 AC DE will always accelerate slower than an 80 AC WLB -- hence the McKeon effect -- and an 80 AC WLB will always accelerate slower than an 80 AC CB. All the AC means here is how fast per position the player will get their weight moving compared to other players that weigh the same weight. (Confusing right?)

Re: Speed vs Speed (Repost from another thread)

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
8/13/2020 6:43 pm
So speed and AC don't move at the same rate when you change a players position (and his physical weight)?

Re: Speed vs Speed (Repost from another thread)

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
8/13/2020 6:52 pm
I have never charted AC and how it changes. I knew about the speed changes that correlate with weight gain/loss, just always assumed AC went right along with it.

Re: Speed vs Speed (Repost from another thread)

By setherick
8/13/2020 6:56 pm
raidergreg69 wrote:
So speed and AC don't move at the same rate when you change a players position (and his physical weight)?


Yes, they do not move at the same rate. From observational data, the max gain/loss of SP is 7, and the max gain/loss of AC is 4-5. It's been a few years since I tracked it.

Anyway, this misses my point. The SP and AC scores are relative to weight classes. An 89 SP LB and 89 SP RB _should_ be the same SP because those are normalized for weight.

But AC was not normalized -- to my knowledge -- so that means an 89 AC WLB (the highest AC you can have) will be the fastest accelerating WLB. But still be slower than an 89 AC player of a lower weight.