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Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By Smirt211
2/15/2017 12:05 pm
zteacher wrote:
Gustoon wrote:
oldarmy94 wrote:
My team almost never punts the ball, and I do this because I believe there is empirical support to demonstrate why we don't. Of course, no NFL coach would ever get away with it because "conventional wisdom", which might be called the refuge of cowards, does not permit it. Here, I can throw caution to the wind because it's MY team, and I can call plays in any way that suits me. I may yet learn that it is a foolish maneuver, but I enjoy challenging the status quo whenever there may be great gains to be made.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/sports/football/calculating-footballs-risk-of-not-punting-on-fourth-down.html?smid=tw-share


Well...each to their own but I don't think that's in the spirit of the game. I woke like to see teams that use this strategy penalised in some way, throwing INTS or hold penalties... anything gets to make it more of a risk.


Explain to me how this strategy is any less in the spirit of the game than those who employ a blitz on EVERY SINGLE PLAY because they have found a hole in the algorithm that allows them a competitive advantage if they do? Would you like to see those GMs penalized in a similar manner to what you describe here? Because, I know I would.


God would I ever. Trust, I just tried a ***** out strategy to counter and it failed. Really hate the strategy with a passion.
Last edited at 2/15/2017 12:08 pm

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By setherick
2/15/2017 2:32 pm
Infinity just sent me the game link of a preseason game in MFN-2 where a team's starting FB went 12/15 passing... I'll post the details later.

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By punisher
2/15/2017 3:12 pm
setherick wrote:
Infinity just sent me the game link of a preseason game in MFN-2 where a team's starting FB went 12/15 passing... I'll post the details later.


no problem to wait later

here is that game = https://mfn2.myfootballnow.com/box/view/5675
that FB was Dan Bechard = https://mfn2.myfootballnow.com/player/7472
that team who played FB at QB was Los Angeles(A) = https://mfn2.myfootballnow.com/team/view/2

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By WarEagle
2/15/2017 3:22 pm
setherick wrote:
Infinity just sent me the game link of a preseason game in MFN-2 where a team's starting FB went 12/15 passing... I'll post the details later.


Ah, he won't make it as a QB. Not enough speed/scramble.

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By Gustoon
2/15/2017 3:28 pm
zteacher wrote:
Gustoon wrote:
oldarmy94 wrote:
My team almost never punts the ball, and I do this because I believe there is empirical support to demonstrate why we don't. Of course, no NFL coach would ever get away with it because "conventional wisdom", which might be called the refuge of cowards, does not permit it. Here, I can throw caution to the wind because it's MY team, and I can call plays in any way that suits me. I may yet learn that it is a foolish maneuver, but I enjoy challenging the status quo whenever there may be great gains to be made.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/sports/football/calculating-footballs-risk-of-not-punting-on-fourth-down.html?smid=tw-share


Well...each to their own but I don't think that's in the spirit of the game. I woke like to see teams that use this strategy penalised in some way, throwing INTS or hold penalties... anything gets to make it more of a risk.


Explain to me how this strategy is any less in the spirit of the game than those who employ a blitz on EVERY SINGLE PLAY because they have found a hole in the algorithm that allows them a competitive advantage if they do? Would you like to see those GMs penalized in a similar manner to what you describe here? Because, I know I would.


Both strategies are exploits and both are not in the spirit of the game and yes penalise both.
Last edited at 2/15/2017 3:32 pm

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By kicker10bog
2/15/2017 3:28 pm
I'm interested to know how a FB was put at QB mid-game. It doesn't look like an injury occurred and it looks like he's not on the QB depth.

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By punisher
2/15/2017 3:30 pm
kicker10bog wrote:
I'm interested to know how a FB was put at QB mid-game. It doesn't look like an injury occurred and it looks like he's not on the QB depth.


guessing that Los Angeles(A) had their max Fatigue in MISC Options for QB 's at like 100 for that happen.

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By Smirt211
2/15/2017 6:22 pm
1st pass was an interception and later on he fumbled near the end zone on a snap and it went for a safety. Inbetween, SF went off for TDs.

Ok, I watched until about 11 min in the 4th. Sense I get is the AI has it set for bad things to happen to you if anyone but a QB steps in there. LOL

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By lellow2011
2/15/2017 7:29 pm
I see nothing wrong with going for it on every 4th down, you do so at your own peril but if you believe it's going to give you a better chance to win then I see no issue with it.

Re: QBs don't need Accuracy

By mikecouil
2/15/2017 9:08 pm
lellow2011 wrote:
I see nothing wrong with going for it on every 4th down, you do so at your own peril but if you believe it's going to give you a better chance to win then I see no issue with it.


There is a high school team in texas that kicks an onside kick every kickoff and goes for it every 4th down. I haven't kept tabs on them in years but they had gone like 5 years straight without a loss. It's a high risk/high reward strategy and I see nothing wrong with it. You see it far more often at the high school level. My high school coach used to tell us "If you can't put it in from 2 yards out you don't deserve the ball." We went on it in 4th and less than 5 probably half the time and were quite successful.