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Re: Keeping your coaching staff

By jsid
6/27/2016 10:23 am
Gustoon wrote:
There are many say that coaches don't matter, well I've yet to see a championship team with 60 rated coaches.


https://cust17.myfootballnow.com/team/view/25

Championship team with some terrible position coaches.

Just throw a ton of money at the HC, OC, and DC so your coordinators can't get poached. Spend a lot of money on the position coaches for the spots that have a lot of developing players and setlle for minimum salary **** for the other position coaches. I do agree signing coaches is pretty annoying, but I still stand by the statement that position coaches aren't a big deal.

Re: Keeping your coaching staff

By lellow2011
6/27/2016 10:35 am
jsid wrote:
Gustoon wrote:
There are many say that coaches don't matter, well I've yet to see a championship team with 60 rated coaches.


https://cust17.myfootballnow.com/team/view/25

Championship team with some terrible position coaches.

Just throw a ton of money at the HC, OC, and DC so your coordinators can't get poached. Spend a lot of money on the position coaches for the spots that have a lot of developing players and setlle for minimum salary **** for the other position coaches. I do agree signing coaches is pretty annoying, but I still stand by the statement that position coaches aren't a big deal.


I usually go for the young position coaches so they can develop in those spots and stick around for a while. Also seems like it doesn't matter how much you pay your coordinators because there is always someone willing to pay that for a upper tier HC so you end up losing those really good coordinators.

Re: Keeping your coaching staff

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
6/27/2016 12:11 pm
lellow2011 wrote:
Also seems like it doesn't matter how much you pay your coordinators because there is always someone willing to pay that for a upper tier HC so you end up losing those really good coordinators.


As happens in real life. (And I know in the NFL teams have to ask permission, but who in the NFL is not going to give permission vs. who here would?)

There is a pretty easy way to keep your coaches from being poached, and that's to sign them to an extension early in FA. I know it's annoying to have to make the offers, but at least for your coordinators that's only 2 contract offers. Then essentially you're only allowing one stage where they can be poached, assuming someone else makes a better offer than you.

I'm not likely going to shorten the time because you will always have the possibility of being poached in the last possible stage, leaving you with only unemployed coaches to choose from. Would you rather have your OC poached in FA-3 with the only options to replace him being unemployed coaches or promoting one of your position coaches, or would you rather still be able to replace him from a position coach from another team? What about if your head coach retires and you try to hire someone else's OC who ends up signing elsewhere, meaning you have to pull a head coach out of the unemployment line?

Re: Keeping your coaching staff

By Gustoon
6/27/2016 1:29 pm
jdavidbakr wrote:
lellow2011 wrote:
Also seems like it doesn't matter how much you pay your coordinators because there is always someone willing to pay that for a upper tier HC so you end up losing those really good coordinators.


As happens in real life. (And I know in the NFL teams have to ask permission, but who in the NFL is not going to give permission vs. who here would?)

There is a pretty easy way to keep your coaches from being poached, and that's to sign them to an extension early in FA. I know it's annoying to have to make the offers, but at least for your coordinators that's only 2 contract offers. Then essentially you're only allowing one stage where they can be poached, assuming someone else makes a better offer than you.

I'm not likely going to shorten the time because you will always have the possibility of being poached in the last possible stage, leaving you with only unemployed coaches to choose from. Would you rather have your OC poached in FA-3 with the only options to replace him being unemployed coaches or promoting one of your position coaches, or would you rather still be able to replace him from a position coach from another team? What about if your head coach retires and you try to hire someone else's OC who ends up signing elsewhere, meaning you have to pull a head coach out of the unemployment line?


It would be nice to be able to negotiate with a coach instead of them just leaving though. Also would like to see where they go in 'transactions'

Re: Keeping your coaching staff

By Brrexkl
6/27/2016 3:49 pm
I know for a fact that Dallas had refused other teams the right to Interview Garret when he was OC, because they eventually wanted him as the HC.

Of course, the pressure of having to continually deny lead to Garret moving to HC quicker than most in Dallas wanted... so it did have an impact.

Refusals do happen, but generally when a Franchise feels a guy is 1-2 Years away from really being a solid HC and they want him to be THEIR HC, so they Refuse with the agreement that the Current HC will move on in 1-2 Years and the job is the Coordinators to have.

I think that Coaches should have a "Happiness" Gauge. Location, Win/Loss, Play Offs and Pay seem like 4 good items, and maybe Synergy (an OC wants the same Offense as the HC, for example, or close to it). This will determine if they take an Early Offer from the Team they are on. It's Yes or No, you give the Offer and they take it or test FA.

This way we have the CHANCE to lock these guys up, but it isn't cookie cutter in that every team is locking up every coach.

Maybe 'Time Together' would count as well, you rarely see entire Staffs break up, unless the HC is fired. Sure, you might lose 1-2 Position Coaches, who are moving up (ST to WR, WR to OC, OC to HC, etc)... but no one loses an entire Staff in an Off Season without the Head Coach being let go.

This game is great, but I strongly feel some RPG elements into Coaching and Player Development would make it even greater. Things like First Choice Offers for Coaches could help with that.

Re: Keeping your coaching staff

By MC_Hammer
6/30/2016 9:45 pm
Gustoon wrote:
setherick wrote:
I'm going to steal at least one coach from you from now on. :)


Better be quick then, I'm giving up teams as my interest is dwindling.


Hope you stay in Cust-12...