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B&R ?

By Qwex
10/18/2021 2:38 pm
What is the attribut B&R ?

Re: B&R ?

By raidergreg69 - League Admin
10/18/2021 2:47 pm
bump and run coverage

Re: B&R ?

By Qwex
10/18/2021 2:59 pm
Thanks but my question is most if really works in the game. You can't see b&r on players basic attribut . You have to go on view.
The AI use that in all play or just in some def off play?

Re: B&R ?

By Infinity on Trial
10/18/2021 3:16 pm
This is arguably the most important skill for CBs in 4.5. It basically determines how long a CB is going to stop a receiver in his tracks before letting him go flying by. The longer the jam, the more likely the QB dumps off or gets sacked. When you see a big pass on a weak side slant, it's because the WR had an advantage in b&r and speed. This is why you should always play your best DB at CB2.

This has a little less emphasis on 4.6, it appears, where speed is kind of nerfed and m2m appears to be the primary coverage skill. Coverage is so much tighter, though, that passing is difficult no matter what your DB attributes are.

Re: B&R ?

By Qwex
10/18/2021 4:03 pm
The AI use b&r just at m2m when cb is at the line of scrimmage, like press?

Or all the time?

And the strenght of the CB have a impact of B&R?
Last edited at 10/18/2021 4:12 pm

Re: B&R ?

By Infinity on Trial
10/18/2021 4:30 pm
I believe b&r only applies when the receiver is coming off the line of scrimmage. If your safety is pressing the TE or WR3, it will kick in, but not if he's chasing a RB into the flat or covering in zone.

Strength has little to no meaning in 4.5. A weak CB might get pushed a yard further before completing the tackle.

Re: B&R ?

By IoanBlood
10/19/2021 2:29 am
To clarify it a little bit:
You have 2 different B&R attributes: B&R Coverage for Defense
and B&R Avoidance for Offense -> important attributes for Backfield, TE, WR as they all are eligible as Pass Receivers.

Re: B&R ?

By Infinity on Trial
10/19/2021 9:47 am
Perhaps setherick knows, but I'm not sure if B&R applies outside of the release from the LOS. I generally don't value it at all among RBs for that reason.

But a related point: Route running is used on tosses, and can make a big difference in whether a RB succeeds on those outside runs.

Re: B&R ?

By Smirt211
10/19/2021 10:42 am
Yep, poor route running and the toss will fling way out there for a -8 hit based on the corresponding defensive call.

Re: B&R ?

By setherick
10/19/2021 7:20 pm
Infinity on Trial wrote:
Perhaps setherick knows, but I'm not sure if B&R applies outside of the release from the LOS. I generally don't value it at all among RBs for that reason.

But a related point: Route running is used on tosses, and can make a big difference in whether a RB succeeds on those outside runs.


Past me was smart enough to write it all down because I don't remember all the details: https://mfn1.myfootballnow.com/community/3/2443?page=8