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Rookie salaries

By Firefly
4/10/2014 7:57 pm
Are rookie salaries out of whack? My first round pick at 1.32 is a 31/80 player and he's going to make more money than my 85/86 9th year QB. My 2.32 has the 10th highest salary on the team and even my 3.32, a 24/69 DT, will make more money than my veteran 75/76 DT.

It seems like a player's 2nd contract is cheaper than his first. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Re: Rookie salaries

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
4/11/2014 7:49 am
Firefly wrote:
Are rookie salaries out of whack? My first round pick at 1.32 is a 31/80 player and he's going to make more money than my 85/86 9th year QB. My 2.32 has the 10th highest salary on the team and even my 3.32, a 24/69 DT, will make more money than my veteran 75/76 DT.

It seems like a player's 2nd contract is cheaper than his first. Shouldn't it be the other way around?


I'm not satisfied with how it works right now so am open to suggestions - but here is how it works. The draft picks have a set-in-stone contract based on what pick it is. This is to reliably predict what a draft pick will cost, and is somewhat in keeping with the way the NFL does the rookie wage scale. Renegotiations, on the other hand, are driven by other contracts in the league at similar positions and ratings. I do think that the renegotiation requests are too low and have started working toward a fix on that, initially it was nearly impossible to keep more than a handful of players from hitting free agency and now it's impossible not to have to let players walk unless you force it on yourself with cuts/trades/retirements eating up your cap space. I'm hoping that adjustment will get the renegotiations more equitable with what the draft signees do.

Re: Rookie salaries

By Firefly
4/11/2014 8:17 am
Exactly, the vets ask for too little. As for the rookie wage scale, I like it, but I think it should be pushed back one round (at least from what I see at the bottom of the round), with the 2nd round pick making what the 1st rounder is making, the 3rd rounder what the 2nd rounder is making, etc. The 5-7 picks are fine no need to adjust there.

Re: Rookie salaries

By Tecra031
4/11/2014 8:48 am
I just say to be careful here...if you push up rookie salaries and vet salaries you will quickly find teams unable to maintain salary caps on a consistent basis

Re: Rookie salaries

By Firefly
4/11/2014 6:08 pm
My suggestion was pushing rookie salaries down, actually. But it would make sense to increase veteran salaries to compensate and make it a bit harder to keep everyone.

Re: Rookie salaries

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
4/12/2014 7:29 am
I'll make some slow adjustments and see how it affects everything in MFN-1. To keep the competitive balance I won't change it until after MFN-1's TC (the other leagues will have it update when they upgrade to version 0.1.2 as this change will be a part of that feature set)

Re: Rookie salaries

By gstelmack
4/14/2014 12:03 pm
Based on the thread at the end of last year, the underlying issue is that vets ask for too little to extend and avoid FA. This leads to teams overladen with cheap talent.

Re: Rookie salaries

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
4/14/2014 12:29 pm
gstelmack wrote:
Based on the thread at the end of last year, the underlying issue is that vets ask for too little to extend and avoid FA. This leads to teams overladen with cheap talent.


I agree that this is the larger issue. MFN-1 will run the upcoming season with the formula turned up a bit; hopefully the next release with this (and other) updates will be ready for the non-beta leagues at the conclusion of the current seasons (actually the next season for MFN-6 as they are about to close out the current season)